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Subject: Cheating on Girlfriend & going bald

Mark

23:35 24/04/2001 

I went into a kind of a get together where I saw two girls.

They're two sisters, one of my age (Cecile), the other is one year younger (Jane). Both are very pretty but the Jane is the cutest.

I am lying down in the bed just talking. Jane starts sweet-talking me. As I notice this, I kiss her. Then I start kissing with Cecile.

I said to them, "No, I can't I have a girlfriend". I said that, but I actually I thought that I could do a kind of threesome but had no condoms. So I go out with my best friend John, (he was driving the car) to go to a place to get condoms. There was someone else in the front seat. I was sitting in the back. We get to the place and have a whole discussion about which kind of condoms to get until we finally decide.

Now we're back at the get together but with many more people and lots of food.

I was really hungry so I started eating, thinking the whole time about the girls who were now in the eating room. I go to the bathroom, but the way there was a long and in the path there were a multitude of girls. Everyone’s girl was there and my girl was Jane.

In the bathroom I noticed I'm going bald, which was a horrible feeling since I'm so young. (In the dream I'm the same age as in real life, 18.) This guy in the bathroom says, "You're going bald because to go out and look handsome you use Gel, and that deteriorates your hair".

Note:

In real life my girlfriend and I have been together less than a year, with much love but also much confusion since our relationship is long distance. My best friend, John, has been a friend for a lifetime, being almost like my brother. A member of his family lately has been very sick, and yesterday she had an operation. I haven't been much of a friend for him lately.

Cecile and Jane are from real life. My best friend was madly in love with Cecile about two years ago. They were friends but nothing ever happened with her.

My brother has been telling me not to use hair gel because I might go bald.

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Dream Surgeon

19:09 26/04/2001 

Hi Mark,

Here's what I get from your dream, which I have treated exactly as I would one of mine.

"get together" - get it together

2 girls - representing femine aspects of self, whatever qualities you see in them you are possibly, probably trying to integrate within yourself at the moment. Wanting to integrate these parts but feeling obligated to stay with what is familiar being whatever attracted you to your former girlfriend.

Bed - rest, retreat, sexuality, also contemplation needed.

Condoms - protection - what are you protecting?

John - represents what to you? And whatever that is is what is currently "driving" you.

Back Seat - take a back seat, not feeling in control of your life, letting others have control?

Decision re Condoms - what sort were they, any colours?

Food - Nourishment - you are "so hungry" for what - time to nourish yourself perhaps?

Bathroom - cleansing - mirror/reflection.

Hair - ideas flowing from head - going bald - changing your way of thinking perhaps? Exposing what - your true Self?

Guy in there with you - Masculine aspect of Self giving you the answer to your current situation.

Belief in what brother says - therefore possibly creating that scenario in your dream.

"go out and look handsome" - looking outside of yourself for what you need - the external looks important to you but it is actually a reflection of the internal.

Gel - fixed ideas, stuck ideas perhaps.

Cheating on Girlfriend - Possibly not currently respecting or nurturing feminine aspects of Self.

Hope that helps.

Mark

00:41 27/04/2001 

Thank you so much for your most helpful answer. Eventough I'm still organizing what this all means. I have 2 point of views from what this all could mean: A) My best friend has a person from his family who has been very sick lately. And it could be about me feeling bad for not being there for him.

B) Me & girlfriend we're about an year, at long distance. This could be about the way I look into the relationship. About what I should do, continue or not. About me not leaving her not to feel hurt but maybe i'm stuck at the idea of me being with her.

About chosing condoms, they were 2 types, one the colors of my soccer team (red & white), and the other were from the other team (blue and yellow). I'm not a passionate soccer fan, but very into my team.

About john, he's my best friend, but I can't think of anything that he's driving me to.

Thanks again, you have been most helpful.

Dream Surgeon

03:04 27/04/2001 

My pleasure Mark.

Red relates to the base charkra - to do with grounding, anger, passion.

White relates to purity and also compassion.

Blue relates to the truth, and your voice, speaking your truth.

Yellow relates to fear.

So which colours did you choose to protect you?

It's not what John is driving you to do - it is what John represents to you - what you see as being his weak/strong good/not so good qualities.

I once had a friend driving me in a car in a dream and I always saw her as being rather anxious about life, hesitant in making decisions which I am normally not. So she was representing my hesitation at leaving a relationship.

Enjoy your contemplations.

Mark

03:06 28/04/2001 

Thank you so much again for responding. At the end I chose my team colors, red & white.

John represents for me.. good question actually.. he represents a lower side. In real life, I consider myself superior to him in almost every way possible (eventhough I hate to admit so.) Hence I guess about it him it would be bad. With details I guess that he represents a kind of life that's not settled. That he doesn't know what he wants to do.

wooww!!!! I just got it!!!! Ok, this is my explanation of the dream in my point of view:

I think it's saying that I don't know exactly what to do with my girlfriend. That I don't feel exactly settled with her, hence not knowing what to do, to continue or stop it there. I protect myself from the relationship to hurt me with anger and compassion towards her.

Does this all makes sense?? Because for me know, it all closes up! Thanks soo much!!

Shooting Star

04:16 28/04/2001 

Hi again Mark,

Yes it makes sense HOWEVER

This last sentence "I protect myself from the relationship to hurt me with anger and compassion towards her."? What exactly are you saying??????

"to hurt me"????

Seems like a subconscious truth here manifesting in a hidden typo.

For me dreams and daily life have, after 9 years of studying them and working with them, not only with myself but many others, they have shown me that there is no seperation between the two.

Your girlfriend therefore to me at least is symbolic yet again of your feminine energy within, she is a mirror if you like, of yourself in some respects, as are most people you encounter.

At first, like most, I thought that dreams and daily life were seperate but when I started using my knowledge of symbolism in "this reality" it was stunning what both were showing me. Particularly in situations where people would push my buttons. I found when I treated/treat any button pushing scenarios as I would a dream, treating everything as a symbolic aspect of Self, I find the truth of the situation and why I am experiencing what I am.

Is your statement therefore really meaning that you are protecting yourself from feeling the feminine energy within because in some part of you you feel hurt and angry and you don't want to feel that fully? or possibly that you are aware of your feminine energy but you don't know what to do with it.

If you have a look at your last paragraph "I think it's saying ......" and replace the word girlfriend with feminine energy you will see what I am saying.

Oh and Mark, there's also a clue in "Because for me now it all closes up!" which you will see when you are ready.

Dream Surgeon but now Shooting Star

Shooting Star

04:39 28/04/2001 

Just need to add that you say your friend John does not know what he wants to do, he is not settled - do you see the reflection of Self he is showing you, which you "hate to admit"?

You also imply that you would like to get together with the 2 girls in your dream - again whatever they represent to you is symbolic of your feminine energy.

Perhaps you are in fact "so hungry" to experience the feminine within but at the same time that energy is a little daunting so your masculine is protecting you from feeling it.

You also say there was much discussion about which type of condoms/protection to use. We are having much discussion here.

Team also implies more than one and certainly two - masculine and feminine can form a powerful team within.

Have fun.

Mark

09:03 28/04/2001 

Shooting star.. really thanks for your interpretations. They're truly surprising. About hidden typos, it could be subconcious, however i'm not American and English is my second language. But it could still be my subconcious. What's also weird about this dream, is that I never remember my dreams, but this one I did. In the dream, the discussion about the condoms was actually very long almost to the point of a fight. It surely could be about my feminime side, but lately my girlfriend issue has been arising in me great distress due to the fact that I'm not sure what is the future of our relationship. But looking back to the side of my feminime side, it's all posible. About feminime side, what do you exactly mean?

Thanks a mil one more time!

Shooting Star

11:23 28/04/2001 

Again, my pleasure Mark.

We only remember what we need to to move us into action when we are stuck.

Whilst we are either male of female physically, within us we contain both feminine and masculine energy.

Male energy is obviously the masculine principle and everything that goes with it - e.g. logical, rational, mechanical way of thinking and re-acting/responding. Often just doing as in the male Warrior, primitive sex drive, and normal daily functions we perform etc.

Feminine energy is creativity, nurturing, caring, sensuality, intuition etc. You are tapping into your femine energy when you dream. When you wake, your masculine why, what, how energy is fully present. "I'm not sure what is the future of our relationship." and feeling distress about it.

Still brings me to the point that the feminine energy within you is "arising" and you are not sure what the future will bring for you. Just keep bringing it back to yourself - what is your girlfriend showing you - you say it is a long distance relationship - what is preventing you from bringing that aspect of yourself closer to yourself? When you find it within yourself it will then be reflected in your outer world.

The discussion about the condoms/protecting yourself from this energy was lengthy and nearly landed up in a fight. Indeed the masculine principles and energy within battling with your feminine intuition and all it represents.

A Shooting Star lights up the night/dark/subconsious sky/landscape and it doesn't matter what country or language you speak dreams speak the same language

I don't doubt we will talk some more when you have digested this post.

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